Friday, April 18, 2008

"While Doc was in the flesh he was Post Diluvian.."



"While Doc was in the flesh he was Post Diluvian and could not talk to us as he really wanted to, just as he couldn't when he was in Yahshua 2000 years ago." ...Taken from the article below, 'When you see, then you will understand.'

The way I understand Doc being Post Diluvian was that when I personally heard him speak in class, I was under the law in my heart and mind. Doc Kinley was Post Diluvian until he received the divine vision and revelation in 1931. Then Doc died to the flesh, meaning his name, life and his understanding as a minister in the church. What was alive in him was Yahweh Elohim and the words that he spoke were spirit and life. We all heard his words, but they were not translated in us until he took off the flesh permanently in 1976. Now we know no man after the flesh not even Yahshua or Dr. Kinley. What good does knowing a man and his words after the flesh? We must know for ourselves who is translating His words or anyone's words in our own hearts and minds. That is the teacher, the Holy Spirit, not Dr. Kinley. Yahweh must give the increase in us by the "Word", not words in lectures, tapes, books, pamphlets and bibles. The 'Word' creates ministering spirits or angels which make up the congregation or spiritual assembly,'in us'.That is the true class or school which is in session 24/7, the Eternal Day. Heb. 12:22-23

Likewise when Yahshua was walking around in the Post Diluvian Age or World 2000 years ago, his disciples heard his words as Post Diluvian or under the Law. He spoke to them in allegories, metaphors and parables. Through his Death, Burial, Resurrection, and Ascension and the out pouring of his Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost his words became translated for the Disciples who then became Apostles (eye witnesses) which brought them into the Present Kingdom Age. They had undergone a change in their heart and mind as Yahshua's words, which was brought back to their remembrance (whose words are spirit and are life) became the true testimony and the second covenant. Even after Pentecost, Peter thought that water baptism was still valid. But the Holy Spirit brought back to his remembrance, that John truly baptized in water, but Yahshua said, you shall be baptized by the Holy Spirit. Acts 1:5. Do you see how we can still carry over some Post Diluvian thoughts in our understanding? We can be extremely zealous, but extremely wrong. We must rightly divide the Word of Truth.

We can listen to Doc's old lectures and read the text book and pamphlets and if our hearts and minds be under the law (Post Diluvian in our understanding) we have a zeal of Yahweh but not according to knowledge. We went about establishing our own form of righteousness not submitting to Yahweh's righteousness. Yahshua is the end of the Law for righteousness to everyone who believes... or understands. Rom. 10:1-4

We can listen or read to what anybody says about Yahweh's purpose and plan and we are supposed to rightly divide the word of truth. We can tell if anyone is under the Law or Post Diluvian in their heart and mind by their words. By your words are you justified and by your words are you condemned. Matt. 12:37

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of Yahweh: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Now here's the bottom line or the line upon line, precept upon precept. We all have read Bible history and we all know the pattern, the Law and the Prophets and Yahshua's mission to fulfill what he instituted back under the Law. These are words we have read, have heard preached and taught to us in class. What we understand about those words, images and stories declares where we stand in our hearts and minds. These words and stories don't exist outside of us, meaning in the bible, books, lectures and pamphlets or back in history. They are written in our hearts and minds, we see them inside ourselves. Those events happened in history, which are gone and dead. But they (the principles or attributes) are alive and current in us through the spirit of Yahweh Elohim, the Word or Son. This is the self same Law of the Spirit of Life (Elohim) The Word which must translate those words and stories from our Post Diluvian understanding (in our minds don't forget), into an actual reality of him being in us. Through this translation of the words and stories, we find that they are testifying of us. Like Yahshua said; for they are they that testify of Me. John 5:39. Now they are testifying of us now since Yahshua is come in us.

As we see the principles line up in us through the scriptures, they are testifying of Yahshua who IS COME in us and has given us an understanding, this is eternal life. 1 John 5:20 Being under the Law or Post Diluvian in our thinking, that's dead works. Words right now must be planted and resurrected by the quickening Spirit or Word of the Spirit of Life, which is Yahshua the Messiah. How does a seed being buried in the earth and watered know when to come up? It doesn't know that it is buried in the earth. It doesn't know its potential until the Son's light shines forth and quickens the seed to become a mighty oak tree or a beautiful flower. Likewise Doc's words were seeds planted in us all and we didn't know our potential (Yahweh Elohim) until Yahshua being the light shined in our hearts and minds and we grew out of the earth/carnal minds which was Ante and Post Diluvian. We are now walking trees of life.

If Doc Kinley came to teach about the Divine Vision and Revelation for his glory and honor and we are to only worship him even after he has taken off the flesh, we have failed miserably in our understanding. He said I am Yahweh and so are you. First Aim is to find and know Yahweh our Elohim as he really is and actually exists. That's the spirit that is alive in us now revealing what the words are saying. You cannot give glory and honor to anyone, dean, teacher, HCK, Pope, me, books, bibles, lectures, websites and pamphlets. When we do that we have given away our consciousness and awareness of who we truly are to our carnal minds which is Post Dluvian by the way and not to who we truly are, Yahweh Elohim. Now that's the Present Kingdom Age.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before Yahweh; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

love and peace, Spirit

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